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« on: April 30, 2009, 02:56:16 PM »

Want to remember to test:


Damage Levels - crash test @ various damage %'s ... find what's suitable for season. 75% Seems good.

Race Results Publisher - errors with Dedi Server too? There's definitely a formatting issue with the first two laps that messes up a fair amount of stuff. Chitty has been able to produce corrected logs that produce correct results in Autosim Analyzer. I've heard back from other league admins that there are ways around it, but they had to make edits to their championship tracking system (GPCOS).

Ballast - Effect on lap times @ Indy Oval, slows us down to AI speeds? Effect at Ovals TBD, effect on road course we have a handle on.

Test customizing starting order via Dedicated Server. - Not Supported

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« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2009, 03:01:01 PM »

We also have to check if you can force driver aid settings from the dedicated server.
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Fast laps: 21
Poles: 15
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GP4-R6 - Circuito de Milano
GP5-R3 - Singapore
GP5-R5 - Zandvoort
GP6-R6 - MoTeC Mile
GP6-R7 - Oulton Park
GP7-R1 - Albert Park
GP7-R3 - Le Mas Du Clos
GP7-R10 - Donington Park
GP7-R11 - Road America
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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2009, 04:19:13 PM »

I don't think you can force them to be on, but you can force them to be off ... what are you thinking of in particular?
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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2009, 04:30:24 PM »

I just want to make sure that I'm racing with the same settings you are.  Monaco the other night makes me wonder if I was.

I think the realism settings should be:
ABs - Low
Traction control - Low
Stability control - On
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Wins: 17
Starts: 54
Fast laps: 21
Poles: 15
Career WAR GP Race Wins
GP3-R8 - Le Mans
GP4-R3 - Nurburgring
GP4-R4 - Istanbul
GP4-R6 - Circuito de Milano
GP5-R3 - Singapore
GP5-R5 - Zandvoort
GP6-R6 - MoTeC Mile
GP6-R7 - Oulton Park
GP7-R1 - Albert Park
GP7-R3 - Le Mas Du Clos
GP7-R10 - Donington Park
GP7-R11 - Road America
GP7-R12 - Suzuka
GP8-R4 - Machwerk 1967
GP8-R6 - Sepang
GP8-R7 - Singapore
GP8-R12 - Suzuka
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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2009, 05:50:39 PM »

I have no prob with those for the server ... since one is still free to turn off whatever one wants Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2009, 11:46:58 PM »

Some things we learned:

X3 tire wear is fine

*Some AI drivers didn't do a pitstop*
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WAR GP Stats:
Wins: 17
Starts: 54
Fast laps: 21
Poles: 15
Career WAR GP Race Wins
GP3-R8 - Le Mans
GP4-R3 - Nurburgring
GP4-R4 - Istanbul
GP4-R6 - Circuito de Milano
GP5-R3 - Singapore
GP5-R5 - Zandvoort
GP6-R6 - MoTeC Mile
GP6-R7 - Oulton Park
GP7-R1 - Albert Park
GP7-R3 - Le Mas Du Clos
GP7-R10 - Donington Park
GP7-R11 - Road America
GP7-R12 - Suzuka
GP8-R4 - Machwerk 1967
GP8-R6 - Sepang
GP8-R7 - Singapore
GP8-R12 - Suzuka
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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2009, 06:53:25 AM »

*Some AI drivers didn't do a pitstop*

Really? That would explain why I didn't feel like I was making any ground.

With a full length race they'll have to change tires at some point though.
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« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2009, 06:57:56 AM »

75% damage seems not bad to me btw ... yes a head-on with the wall at speed ripped both front wheels off, but we should be able to survive interaction with the AI ... which I think was a concern of Kal's.

How did you guys feel about the AI's pace?

I felt like I was definitely faster but still had trouble overtaking, some of them were absolutely stubborn. But there were still chances to pass, certain corners where you could expect them to brake early if they didn't feel threatened ... and if we do start running away form them it could even out through pit stops..?
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« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2009, 08:50:15 AM »

I had no issues with 75% damage.  Some of my AI overtakes were not exactly clean, or anywhere near clean, but I managed to keep my front wing.  I know Kal lost his front wing, but it appeared that was from an altercation with a tire wall.

As far as AI skill, I went from 20th to 3 or 4 in the opening lap, so I didn't have too many problems with them.  Once the field spread out I believe they were lapping similar to us though.

I retract my X3 tire wear comment.  I think it should be set to X2, especially considering that we don't know the AI is actually going to pit.  I think Kal mentioned that if it's at X3, we would have had to pit 3 times if that race was full distance.  IMO at X3 we only had 8 laps with good/decent tires and with full distance on that track around 27 laps or so, we would definitely be pitting more than the AI.
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WAR GP Stats:
Wins: 17
Starts: 54
Fast laps: 21
Poles: 15
Career WAR GP Race Wins
GP3-R8 - Le Mans
GP4-R3 - Nurburgring
GP4-R4 - Istanbul
GP4-R6 - Circuito de Milano
GP5-R3 - Singapore
GP5-R5 - Zandvoort
GP6-R6 - MoTeC Mile
GP6-R7 - Oulton Park
GP7-R1 - Albert Park
GP7-R3 - Le Mas Du Clos
GP7-R10 - Donington Park
GP7-R11 - Road America
GP7-R12 - Suzuka
GP8-R4 - Machwerk 1967
GP8-R6 - Sepang
GP8-R7 - Singapore
GP8-R12 - Suzuka
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« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2009, 09:39:54 AM »

X2 sounds fair to me.
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« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2009, 09:11:01 PM »

I guess my problem is with the AI seeming to take certain lines regardless of whether there is a car in their way. And watching the majority of the field pit on the last lap, or even pitting to finish, makes me hesitant to using X3 tires. The AI is going to run the same line, more or less, through the race until they hit 50% or lower on tires, and by then we're severely noticing tire wear and effects on turning. It's just a little jarring to take the same line into a corner, at the same speed on two consecutive laps and find yourself spinning on the latter because of tire wear.

But all around, seemed decent enough. Kinda surprised I finished 14th after the 45s pit for suspension and gas.
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« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2009, 08:32:33 AM »

I think I might be making progress as far as publishing race results. I'm messing with a new system that's more actively supported ... http://racing.teamrip.net

I created accounts for kal & Chitty in the system, it's possible you have unexpected activation emails from this system, you can ignore them.

If you go to the left column
- Select a Sim of Race07
- Select a season of 'Fun Runs'
- info about our Oschersleben race should appear down below
- Click the 'more' link...

So far it only counts drivers with accounts in the system, ie, the 3 of us. But I can manually create placeholder accounts for the AI so the entire field shows up and then we'll truly be able to tell if the positions graph is accurate.
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« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2009, 09:08:34 AM »

It's looking pretty sweet!

So that old racing results system is dead then?  That really sucks as I was planning on using that to populate the race order displays and stuff in the video. 

Also the website race information doesn't look as detailed either.  Sad

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WAR GP Stats:
Wins: 17
Starts: 54
Fast laps: 21
Poles: 15
Career WAR GP Race Wins
GP3-R8 - Le Mans
GP4-R3 - Nurburgring
GP4-R4 - Istanbul
GP4-R6 - Circuito de Milano
GP5-R3 - Singapore
GP5-R5 - Zandvoort
GP6-R6 - MoTeC Mile
GP6-R7 - Oulton Park
GP7-R1 - Albert Park
GP7-R3 - Le Mas Du Clos
GP7-R10 - Donington Park
GP7-R11 - Road America
GP7-R12 - Suzuka
GP8-R4 - Machwerk 1967
GP8-R6 - Sepang
GP8-R7 - Singapore
GP8-R12 - Suzuka
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« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2009, 09:23:18 AM »

http://racing.teamrip.net/utils/push_file.php?dataarray[IDrace]=1&dataarray[sessionid]=6


Hey, I exported the race information from the link above provided on the new website.  Is that the same file format that you run through the other program?  If so, I think I've just fixed the issue we were having with the 0 lap counting.  I just threw together an Excel spreadsheet to go through and increase the lap data by 1 for each racer.  I think that will provide accurate results in the original program.  Could you test it when you have a moment?
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WAR GP Stats:
Wins: 17
Starts: 54
Fast laps: 21
Poles: 15
Career WAR GP Race Wins
GP3-R8 - Le Mans
GP4-R3 - Nurburgring
GP4-R4 - Istanbul
GP4-R6 - Circuito de Milano
GP5-R3 - Singapore
GP5-R5 - Zandvoort
GP6-R6 - MoTeC Mile
GP6-R7 - Oulton Park
GP7-R1 - Albert Park
GP7-R3 - Le Mas Du Clos
GP7-R10 - Donington Park
GP7-R11 - Road America
GP7-R12 - Suzuka
GP8-R4 - Machwerk 1967
GP8-R6 - Sepang
GP8-R7 - Singapore
GP8-R12 - Suzuka
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« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2009, 09:46:13 AM »

Strange... Buz your lap data seems to be screwed up.  In the original file you don't have a lap 0 like every other race did, so obviously when I run it through to fix, your data now starts on lap 2.  I know you got lapped, but you got it back so you should have been counted as having completed 15 laps.  I wonder iif the new race results program is handling that correctly.

Original File
[Slot018]
Driver=rip Buzinator
SteamUser=buzinat0r
SteamId=16303947
Vehicle=2002 LOLA BT2/50
Team=TEMPLATE_TEAM
Laps=15
Lap=(1, 46.308, 1:23.298)
Lap=(2, 143.352, 2:11.719)
Lap=(3, 226.650, 1:49.316)
Lap=(4, 358.369, 1:33.119)
Lap=(5, 467.684, 1:21.786)
Lap=(6, 560.804, 1:22.456)
Lap=(7, 642.590, 1:22.806)
Lap=(8, 725.046, 1:23.288)
Lap=(9, 807.852, 1:22.210)
Lap=(10, 891.140, 1:22.888)
Lap=(11, 973.350, 1:24.709)
Lap=(12, 1056.238, 1:22.811)
Lap=(13, 1140.948, 1:26.003)
Lap=(14, 1223.759, 1:23.163)
LapDistanceTravelled=3650.967041
BestLap=1:21.786
RaceTime=0:22:26.616


My fixed file
[Slot018]
Driver=rip Buzinator
SteamUser=buzinat0r
SteamId=16303947
Vehicle=2002 LOLA BT2/50
Team=TEMPLATE_TEAM
Laps=15
Lap=(2, 46.308, 1:23.298)
Lap=(3, 143.352, 2:11.719)
Lap=(4, 226.650, 1:49.316)
Lap=(5, 358.369, 1:33.119)
Lap=(6, 467.684, 1:21.786)
Lap=(7, 560.804, 1:22.456)
Lap=(8, 642.590, 1:22.806)
Lap=(9, 725.046, 1:23.288)
Lap=(10, 807.852, 1:22.210)
Lap=(11, 891.140, 1:22.888)
Lap=(12, 973.350, 1:24.709)
Lap=(13, 1056.238, 1:22.811)
Lap=(14, 1140.948, 1:26.003)
Lap=(15, 1223.759, 1:23.163)
LapDistanceTravelled=3650.967041
BestLap=1:21.786
RaceTime=0:22:26.616
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WAR GP Stats:
Wins: 17
Starts: 54
Fast laps: 21
Poles: 15
Career WAR GP Race Wins
GP3-R8 - Le Mans
GP4-R3 - Nurburgring
GP4-R4 - Istanbul
GP4-R6 - Circuito de Milano
GP5-R3 - Singapore
GP5-R5 - Zandvoort
GP6-R6 - MoTeC Mile
GP6-R7 - Oulton Park
GP7-R1 - Albert Park
GP7-R3 - Le Mas Du Clos
GP7-R10 - Donington Park
GP7-R11 - Road America
GP7-R12 - Suzuka
GP8-R4 - Machwerk 1967
GP8-R6 - Sepang
GP8-R7 - Singapore
GP8-R12 - Suzuka
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